It's not meant to go quickly, otherwise you wouldn't need to go through more than just foundations to build a strong line with good PS.   Foundations can feel extra slow, because they come with no training boost which causes slower stat gain, and lower stats means they are in lower tiers for showing/careers which makes their points go up slower.  Halter gets around this because it gives quite a bit of points for 4-5* horses, but it can still feel slow.  

But that's the point.  If we all ended up with horses with high stats/level after only a couple weeks of work, it wouldn't feel quite as much of an accomplishment when you do get your lines established.  I'm on foundations and the start of my second generation.  I breed my foundations when they hit 50, so the foals will at least have a training boost of 10 - and the second gen foals are already about to overtake their parents in a lot of cases.

Cruelly Wampum is a 2nd gen foal, TB11 at 469s. She's already level 35 through halter showing. Her parents are only level 53 and 64 and only have about 150 more stats than she does. She'll probably overtake them around the time she turns 4. I don't breed my 2nd gens at level 50 though, because they have their boost already, and it's more important to me to aim for higher stats at that point.

I guess what I'm saying is yes, it is slow, especially with first generation horses.  But it's not always slow, and we can't speed it up too much for horses just starting out because it'll have repercussions down the line.  Everyone breeds for their own thing, so I understand if you're just aiming to pass on particular colors and want to move it along, but if you're looking to breed horses that'll sell more easily (because they have high stats/level/TB) then it's all about patience.

@nitterous don't we use all our horses energy putting them into a halter show? Usually I do.

Well yeah you also use all their energy entering in the max disciplines or anything else you do. 

I dont think waiting a day for them to run is a lot. Its already a much better improvement from what it used to be

@maki I do know it sucked back in the day, but I still think lowering the required horses to start would be nice (even 15-17)

@Rosi - you do normally use up all of their energy on halter shows.  That's why in the mornings my pattern is this -

1. feed/water/brush all horses.

2. trainings for all horses and foals.

3. check levels on foundations to see if they're over 50 and have an available partner as well (since I breed foundies at 50, I mix and match pairs until I get the foal I'm looking for, then put their parents to stud/brood if they're nice, or sell them if they aren't. - this removes the parents from my active gene pool so I have less worry over inbreeding.)

4. All Career horses Amateur and above start working on careers.

5. Foal halter shows, since I know thats the only place to use their energy.

6. Last I just start going through horses to put them in halter/discipline as needed.  Since I already did any breedings I need the rest of their energy can go towards their work.  If it's before 12pm I can't always use the rest of their energy because the shows haven't run, so sometimes its just a little wait until the afternoon, or putting them in discipline shows instead, if they'll get a good amount of points from it.

@niterous I'll try to do all that, but I'm bad at this- only started last week and was told of old halter shows- I'm getting into habit now, but it's a small struggle for me- I still say lower it from 20 to 15 to start.

My opinion is that it doesn't need to be lowered. Although I'd still like to see the levels go quicker, It's still until rollover when the horse can be used again. So... if you were to use 80% of halter shows, saving that last 20% for a bite of breeding... It doesn't really make anything go any faster. We still have cooldowns to think of.

In the end, if a person plans the very first generation well (like as Nittrous outlined), that second generation can theoretically reach their required minimal level for breeding by the time they're three years and able to breed. In this way, theoretically, an account can breed each generation, what? Every three weeks? I think it's every three weeks, if one isn't concerned about colors or related color genes.

That said, the overall bloodline of that horse (each successive generation) would not be climbing nearly as rapidly by only breeding at 3 years. It would climb, certainly, generation over generation (I'm talking about PS) but overall, a player would be hamstringing themself by breeding so early and not gathering a lot more levels before breeding.

Sure, the breeding bug is satisfied, but the length of time to overall improve the bloodline would be painstakingly slow. Much, Much slower than by utilizing a plan like Nittrous suggested.

Although I do not just breed at level 50, all of my [foundations, wilds, customs], I do try to wait until at least level 50 to breed (some of those first foundation-style horses just struggle to make level 50 by the time they're 18 years).

But that's the difference between wanting to get moving on things and being patient enough to plan and await success to come.

To each, their own.🤷

Edit to add this thought.

I suppose, if a player wants to ride a good compromising fenceline, then (after first generation), if they were to wait until at least level 16 before breeding... if each parent were level 70, that would mean a TB of 14 for the foals born, which is an acceptable amount to add to each training session of a foal's lifetime.

It would push the generations along faster and not hamstring the players hoard quite so much.😄