Halter shows questions
Malouane [Basic || 11 posts] on 6/25/2023 9:50 am
Hi everyone,
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask about this, please let me know if I need to move this somewhere else!
I am struggling a bit to understand the logic of halter shows, especially for foals. I am entering a lot of them in those shows, because it's a good way to level them up and breed them faster when they get to that age, but there doesn't seem to be a pattern as to when they win or not. Some do very well, earn money every time, but others sometimes win everything and other times just lose everything. I read the wiki to figure out what might be happening but still I don't understand - would anyone have an idea on this?
Also, was the modification on the halter show schedule supposed to apply already? Because when I logged in today most of the halter shows my horses were in had not run, and it seems they are still waiting for 20 horses to enter (the Irish Cob 4 stars for foals had been up for a while and ran in the middle of the day). Is that a bug, or is that normal?
Thanks in advance!
Seems like the Halter Shows schedule isn't working correctly atm, there is a bug report for it.
Halter shows results are overwhelmingly dependent on a horse/foal's breed variance (with a pinch of skills stats and a random slide), which is pretty much how far your horse/foal conformation stats are from the perfect breed standard. For example, if a horse/foal has 5 stars, its breeding variance will be somewhere between 0 (horse/foal has a perfection conformation) and 12. Horses/foals closest to 0 in the 5-star halter shows will typically be the winner while a horse/foal close to 12 will most likely be last or close to last.
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Thank you so much for the clear answer! I did think that the general BS had an impact but never thought it was due to the points, I will have to go back to my calculations.
You mentioned 5 stars being between 0 and 12 variation, but have you an idea as to what 4/3/2 stars variations would be?
Yup!
| Star Type | Low | High |
| ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ | 0 | 12 |
| ⭐⭐⭐⭐ | 13 | 24 |
| ⭐⭐⭐ | 25 | 36 |
| ⭐⭐ | 37 | 48 |
| ⭐ | 49+ |
This is great, thank you so much!
Also adding that halter shows have a unique judging system to mimick the differences you see with real human judges. This is from the wiki:
"Halter shows are judged based on breed standard, skills, and some judge bias. Each show heavily weighs breed standards and includes judge bias and a skills bonus. Each show has 3 judges who each randomly judge a breed standard stat more than the others. This means in each halter show 3 breed standard stats are judged normally and 3 have a heavier weight. Halter shows also include skills at a low % which acts as a bonus to your horse’s score."
So if you have a horse that is 3 excellent and 3 good, even if those 3 excellent are "perfect" your horse might not win because the judges focused on the conformation stats that your horse just has as good. That's why the same horse might place top 3 one day and bottom 3 the next. The closer each stat is to "perfect", the more consistent their placing will be in halter shows.
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