Ꭷ Iberians & Araloosas Show Stock

Oaken Fields [Basic || 114 posts] on 7/13/2022 7:00 pm

**Don't want to read the specifics? Check out the first reply for the summary.**

In order to help to popularize these two breeds (nominally Iberians, but since I have them, also Araloosas) I've decided to open all of my show strings to be accessed at any time to any player, available upon request. First, I'll introduce both breeds.

 

Iberian Warmblood

Perhaps considered the 'original' dressage horse, this large warmblood is supposed to have been a key factor in arguably most breeds alive today. Having a long history as first nominally a war horse and then a choice for nobility and onward toward more modern occupations (dressage), this breed today appears to've lost itself among the long list of other warmbloods from around the world.

On Horse Fable, this breed is considered a 'Crossbreed' and is created by crossing the Andalusian with the Thoroughbred. Set up still for dressage, I have found that my line succeeded very beautifully in cutting. So this is what my stock excels at. However, with just a little work (perhaps a single generation or two), these horses can be retrained to excel in Barrels, Flats (some of mine already do quite well in flat racing), or Show Jumping and perhaps with just a little additional work, could work out very well in Hunter or Reining or also in Trail or Eventing.

 

Araloosa

This horse (as the internet suggests) appears to the redevelopment of the Nez Perce peoples and what is considered the 'original' Appaloosa as it was in the 18th and 19th centuries. But is indeed the cross between the Appaloosa and the Arabian.

On Horse Fable, this is also where we get this 'Crossbreed', by crossing an Appaloosa with an Arabian. Set up for Endurance, I have chosen my line to be Pole specialties, but I have also found that where one might struggle in poles either because of competition or because of skills, that horse can deal with endurance competitions much, much easier. With a little retraining (a generation or two), these horses I have could be successfully shown in Hunter Under Saddle or possibly Barrels or Show Jumping. There are other options, but they may take a little additional effort. However of those, the best options might be Western Pleasure or Dressage.

 

How This Works/What I'm Offering
 

I'm offering access to any of my Iberian or Araloosa stock for breeding purposes. Feel free to pick the mare and the 3761stallion, make them a cross between the Araloosa and the Iberian or make them pure. Keep an eye on the levels and if you like color, take a look at their color genes (all of mine are tested).

I'll match them together and deliver a foal. If you like the foal, offer a price you can afford for it (with one exception of those 18 years and older, see below). This means I'll accept ingots or bits and it will always fall within your price, even if you're a newbie and have just a single bit to pay. Yes, this does rely very heavily on you being honest about what you're purchasing.

You can request breedings as many times as you like, but you may have only one open request at a time.

What happens if I don't like the foal? If, for whatever reason, you don't like the outcome foal, you're free to refuse it. The foal will likely be put on the open market for sale, either in the auctions or in open sale or both. There's also the chance of the foal being retired, so please keep this in mind.

Any mare or stallion of the above two breeds are open for requestable breedings, the list will appear following. I will also offer outside coverings to your mare or stallion from your choice, this will be set up as a private breeding (and considered a breeding separate from the forum offer). However, since I level my horses, I will require your horse to be at least level 50, or be of an advanced age where levels are simply lacking. In this second case, coverings will be considered on a case by case basis.

I will even offer straws and eggs, but these will be restricted to you paying the pull-fee PLUS paying the fee for basic studding/brooding below. I'm looking to offer live foals for people who're interested and not those that want to 'save for later'.

I... have money, but am awful at figuring out a horse's worth. Can you help guide me there? Yeah. For those of you that have the funds and are interested at being at least minimally fair but do have trouble with what that 'Fair' might be, below is a breakdown list of what I would put the horses up for open brood/stud. If you combine the two, you'll get a fair idea of what I think the foal's worth should minimally be.

Any reason a horse may not be available? Obviously, if the horse is on cooldown. Otherwise, if a horse has been overbred (more than seven living offspring or so), I will likely NOT allow any straw or egg pulls and will likely NOT allow any outside coverings... with very few exceptions, but live foals can still be bred. Also, if I've already sent you or I see on your account multiple foals by the same sire or brood (or both) of mine, I may close off one in particular to help spread the blood around a little more. So, please make sure you choose different parents (exception with this is if I have only a couple choices) if you want more than one of the same breed.

Also, once a horse breaches their 18th birthday, they will no longer be available to this program... temporarily. I will need my own stock from such a horse and when I'm happy with my own foal, the elder-horse will be applied to open breeding market for a set fee. Once this happens stud and brood fees will be set permanently and the horse's fee MUST be included in the foal's pickup cost.

 

Pricing, for those that need some guidance
 

Please remember, this is only to aid people who want to collect foal's and can afford to pay. Also remember, these are estimates and not actual and based on current market values (updated December of 2024). When the horse goes up for public stud or brood after 18 years, the market may have changed or I may feel the horse is worth more or less than listed estimates based on color or stars, or also their previous foal use (living or otherwise may both factor in).

*One additional note. I do not yet have four or five stars of either of these two breeds, those prices have yet to be determined.*

 

Iberian Stallions
 

3 Star may have additional 5k to 10k
 

Stallions within Tier 1 & at or under level 50: between 500 & 2000 bits only

Stallions within Tier 1 &  over level 50 but under level 100: between 2000 & 6000 bits OR between 10 & 20 ingots

Stallions within Tier 1 &  above level 100: between 10k to 15k bits OR between 20 & 30 ingots

Stallions within Tier 2 and Under level 50: between 3500 & 7500 bits only

Stallions within Tier 2 and over level 50 but under level 100: between 8000 & 12k OR between 20 & 30 ingots

Stallions within Tier 2 and over level 100: between 15k & 25k OR between 50 & 100 ingots

 

Iberian Mares

3 Star may have additional 8k to 12k

Mares within Tier 1 & at or under level 70 : between 2000 & 5000 bits only

Mares within Tier 1 & over level 70 but under level 100: between 5000 & 8k bits OR between 10 & 20 ingots

Mares within Tier 1 & over level 100: 10k to 15k bits OR between 20 ingots & 35 ingots

Mares within Tier 2 & under level 70: between 4500 & 7k bits only

Mares within Tier 2 & over level 70 but under level 100: between 10k to 15k OR between 25 ingots & 40 ingots

Mares within Tier 2 & above level 100: Starting at 35k bits OR starting at 50 ingots

 

Araloosa Stallions
 

3 Star may have additional 5k to 10k

Stallions within Tier 1 & under level 60 : between 500 & 1500 bits only

Stallions within Tier 1 & over level 60 but under level 90: between 1500 & 2500 bits only

Stallions within Tier 1 & over level 90: between 4000 & 6500 bits only

Stallions within Tier 2 & under level 60: between 2500 & 4500 bits only

Stallions within Tier 2 & over level 60 but under level 90: between 5500 & 8000 bits OR between 10 & 15 ingots

Stallions within Tier 2 & above level 90: between 10k & 15k OR between 20 & 30 ingots

Stallions within Tier 3 & below level 90: Unlikely to appear currently, see Tier 2 & above level 90

Stallions within Tier 3 & above level 90: above 20k OR above 40 ingots

 

Araloosa Mares
 

3 Star may have additional 8k to 12k

Mares within Tier 1 & under level 70: between 500 & 5000 bits only

Mares within Tier 1 & over level 70 but under level 95: between 6500 & 8000 bits OR between 10 & 15 ingots

Mares within Tier 1 & over level 95: between 10k & 15k bits OR between 20 & 30 ingots

Mares within Tier 2 & under level 70: between 3000 & 7000 bits only

Mares within Tier 2 & over level 70 but under level 95: between 8000 & 12k OR between 12 & 18 ingots

Mares within Tier 2 & over level 95: starting at 15k OR starting at 20 ingots

Mares within Tier 3 & below level 90: Unlikely to appear currently, see Tier 2 & above level 95

Mares within Tier 3 & above level 90: above 25k OR above 35 ingots

 

Now to the fun part
 

Updated: March 18, 2025

*Visit horses to confirm levels & PS. Levels noted are minimum at update.*

*Minimal foal TB's are determined by adding both parents levels and dividing by 10.*

*The TB recorded in each ad is the minimal TB # you can expect to receive, if bred to a level 1 partner, after foal training.*

*Any Purchased horse will have limited outside foals, to preserve the breeder's lines (exception to breeder's requests).*

*Any horse up for ingot stud or brood, can be renegotiated into bits for THIS forum only.*

*Gray horses will have noted original colors where available.*

*Apologies if the links don't work, they don't save properly after edits, sometimes.*

 

Iberian Stallions

Ꭷ Strength From Demons - 20y, 1 Star, Pearl Dun Rabicano, Tier 2, Level 128, PS 6234, TB 12 Not Currently Available

Ꭷ Breaking Creation - 20y, 3 Star, White, Tier 2, Level 94, PS 3935, TB 9 For Stud: 35 ingots

Ꭷ Empty Conscious - 20y, 2 Star, Light Chestnut Rabicano, Tier 2, Level 104, PS 7125, TB 10 For Stud: 70 Ingots

Ꭷ Brilliantly Fury - 13y, 2 Star, Black, Tier 2, Level 90, PS 2766, TB 9

Ꭷ Shadow Legion - 11y, 2 Star, White, Tier 2, Level 96, PS 4995, TB 9

Ꭷ Vanishing Reaper - 9y, 2 Star, White, Tier 2, Level 83, PS 3629, TB 8

Ꭷ Undying Devil - 9y, 1 Star, Sooty Pearl Sabino Rabicano, Tier 2, Level 75, PS 3513, TB 7

Ꭷ Primal Curse - 8y, 1 Star, Light Chestnut Rabicano, Tier 2, Level 71, PS 3851, TB 7

Ꭷ Follows Of Nemesis - 8y, 2 Star, Light Chestnut Dun, Tier 2, Level 75, PS 3561, TB 7

Ꭷ Azure Death - 7y, 2 Star, Flaxen Honey Roan, Tier 2, Level 72, PS 3761, TB 7

Ꭷ Silent Dreadlord - 7y, 2 Star, Sooty Bay Tobiano, Tier 2, Level 70, PS 3436, TB 7

Ꭷ Forsaken Creature - 4y, 1 Star, White, Tier 1, Level 51, PS 2614, TB 5

Ꭷ Elite Sorrow - 3y, 2 Star, White, Tier 2, Level 58, PS 3204, TB 5

Ꭷ Collapse - 2y, 3 Star, White, Tier 1, Level 43, PS 1179, TB 4

Ꭷ Void - 1y, 1 Star, Sooty Light Buckskin Roan Leopard, Tier 1, Level 20, PS 2195, TB 2

 

 

Iberian Mares

Ꭷ Dueling Destinies - 23y, 2 Star, Brown Dun Rabicano, Tier 2, Level 109, PS 4846, TB 10 At Brood: 40k

p$07 Nectar - 23y - 2 Star, Chocolate Palomino Dun, Tier 1, Level 69, PS 1248, TB 7 *Purchased* Not Currently Available

Ꭷ Fading Gray And Gone - 21y, 2 Star, Red Chestnut Dun, Tier 2, Level 126, PS 6939, TB 12 At Brood: 60 ingots

🐴!!Pumpkin - 20y, 3 Star, Light Chestnut, Tier 1, Level 69, PS 535, TB 7 *Purchased* At Brood: 10k

CMS🗻 Wildflower Seeds - 20y, 3 Star, Light Bay Sabino, Tier 1, Level 76, PS 759, TB 7 *Purchased* Not Currently Available

Ꭷ Happenstance Hollow - 17y, 2 Star, Smoky Cream Rabicano, Tier 2, Level 106, PS 4767, TB 10

XOXO Iberian Queen - 14y, 3 Star, Fleabitten Grey (Blue Roan), Tier 1, Level 80, PS 1058, TB 8 *Purchased*

Ꭷ Fallen Legacies - 15y, 2 Star, Steel Grey (Smoky Black Dun), Tier 2, Level 111, PS 4861, TB 11

Ꭷ Ebony Zero - 13y, 3 Star, Liver Chestnut, Tier 2, Level 102, PS 3919, TB 10

Ꭷ Red Dawning - 13y, 2 Star, Brown Bay Sabino, Tier 1, Level 85, PS 2124, TB 8

⚸ Facets Refractions - 13y, 2 Star, Perlino Dun Rabicano, Tier 2, Level 94, PS 3674, TB 9 *Purchased*

Ꭷ Shadowed Hollows - 13y, 1 Star, Red Roan, Tier 1, Level 82, PS 3081, TB 8

Ꭷ Royal Cloudbursting - 13y, 1 Star, Red Roan, Tier 2, Level 84, PS 3243, TB 8

Ꭷ Unknown Tragedies - 12y, 2 Star, Steel Grey (Black), Tier 2, Level 89, PS 3265, TB 9

Ꭷ Nightfall Riven - 10y, 2 Star, White, Tier 2, Level 88, PS 3934, TB 8

Ꭷ Demonic Outlaw - 10y, 2 Star, White, Tier 2, Level 84, PS 3637, TB 8

Ꭷ Delightful Attacker - 9y, 1 Star, Smoky Black Roan Tobiano, Tier 2, Level 76, PS 3329, TB 7

Ꭷ Ancient Reaver - 8y, 2 Star, Greying Light Buckskin Tobiano, Tier 2, Level 74, PS 4044, TB 7

Ꭷ Broken Overlord - 8y, 3 Star, Red Chestnut Leopard, Tier 1, Level 73, PS 2087, TB 7

Ꭷ Stalking Daylight - 7y, 2 Star, Red Chestnut Dun Rabicano, Tier 1, Level 63, PS 2567, TB 6

Ꭷ Chasm - 5y, 3 Star, White, Tier 2, Level 68, PS 2767, TB 6

Ꭷ Pandora's Rage - 4y, 2 Star, Red Chestnut Dun Rabicano, Tier 1, Level 50, PS 2446, TB 5

 

 

Araloosa Stallions

Elias Song - 16y, 3 Star, Sooty Cremello Varnish Roan, Tier 2, Level 92, PS 3050, TB 9 *Purchased* Not Currently Available

Ꭷ Longing For Emptiness - 21y, 3 Star, Light Chestnut Varnish Roan, Tier 2, Level 117, PS 5923, TB 11 For Stud: 12k

Ꭷ Excessive Roughness - 19y, 1 Star, Amber Dun Sabino Varnish Roan, Tier 2, Level 122, PS 5517, TB 12 Not Currently Available

Ꭷ Mischief Jinn - 21y, 2 Star, Grullo Splash Varnish Blanket, Tier 2, Level 109, PS 4144, TB 11 Not Currently Available

Ꭷ Long After Dark - 20y, 2 Star, Sooty Light Chestnut Dun Sabino Splash Varnish Blanket, Tier 2, Level 130, PS 6500, TB 13 Not Currently Available

Ꭷ Cut My Wings - 19y, 2 Star, Silver Brown Dunskin Fewspot, Tier 2, Level 100, PS 4791, TB 10 For Stud: 15k

Ꭷ Beat'em Silly - 6y, 2 Star, Black Varnish Roan, Tier 2, Level 68, PS 3389, TB 6

Ꭷ Legion Of The Abyss - 2y, 2 Star, Amber Champagne Splash White, Tier 1, Level 40, PS 2444, TB 4

Ꭷ Fallen Chaos - 1y, 3 Star, Sooty Black Splash Fewspot, Tier 1, Level 38, PS 2598, TB 3

Ꭷ Afterthought - 1y, 1 Star, Black Varnish Blanket, Tier 2, Level 23, PS 2907, TB 2

Ꭷ Valor's Torture - 1y, 3 Star, Silver Smoky Cream Dun Varnish Roan, Tier 1, Level 27, PS 1710, TB 2

Ꭷ Corruption - 0y, 3 Star, Standard Chestnut Dun Fewspot, Tier 1, Level 1, PS 2434, TB 1

Ꭷ Hell Shadows - 0y, 2 Star, Sooty Buckskin Roan Splash Fewspot, Tier 1, Level 1, PS 2130, TB 1

 

 

Araloosa Mares

Ꭷ Divider - 20y, 3 Star, Sooty Golden Champagne Splash Varnish Roan, Tier 2, Level 114, PS 5085, TB 11 At Brood: 20k

Ꭷ Overhauled - 20y, 3 Star, Sooty Silver Buckskin Splash Varnish Blanket, Tier 2, Level 114, PS 4229, TB 11 At Brood: 20k

Ꭷ Slap Happy - 20y, 2 Star, Bay Varnish Roan, Tier 2, Level 88, PS 5240, TB 8 At Brood: 9k

Ꭷ Depth Of Possession - 19y, 3 Star, Black Varnish Blanket, Tier 2, Level 108, PS 4780, TB 10 At Brood: 20k

Ꭷ Dimming Memories - 19y, 3 Star, Cremello, Tier 2, Level 99, PS 3572, TB 10 Not Currently Available

Ꭷ Ballad Of Regicide - 18y, 3 Star, Gold Cream Splash Varnish Roan, Tier 2, Level 108, PS 4269, TB 10 Not Currently Available

Ꭷ Trace Of Legends - 18y, 2 Star, Amber Silver, Tier 2, Level 114, PS 4505, TB 11 Not Currently Available

Ꭷ Rusted Dismissal - 18y, 2 Star, Black Sabino, Tier 2, Level 103, PS 4591, TB 10 At Brood: 15k

Ꭷ Sculpting Crisis - 17y, 1 Star, Classic Cream, Tier 2, Level 96, PS 4955, TB 9

Ꭷ Sovereign Cataclysm - 16y, 2 Star, Perlino Splash Varnish Roan, Tier 2, Level 103, PS 3935, TB 10

Ꭷ Litany Of The Fallen - 15y, 1 Star, Silver Brown Bay, Tier 2, Level 102, PS 4461, TB 10

Ꭷ Blue Insanity - 10y, 2 Star, Flaxen Strawberry Roan, Tier 2, Level 84, PS 3488, TB 8

Ꭷ Sliver Demon - 2y, 2 Star, Bay Dun Sabino Varnish Roan, Tier 2, Level 46, PS 3011, TB 4

Ꭷ Devil's Sins - 1y, 2 Star, Sooty Amber Cream Roan Snowcap, Tier 1, Level 34, PS 2406, TB 3

Ꭷ Uprise Massacre - 1y, 3 Star, Classic Cream Silver Dun Splash Leopard, Tier 1, Level 38, PS 2635, TB 3

Ꭷ Dire Sliver - 1y, 3 Star, Sooty Classic Silver Fewspot, Tier 1, Level 34, PS 2399, TB 3

 

 

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Oaken Fields

Post Count: 114

2/24/2024 4:17 pm

Okay, PS and TB are two different things.

TB = Training Boost

TB is more important, because this is what increase PS throughout the horse's lifetime as you train.

 

PS = Performace Stats

PS is what determines where your horse can compete in it's discipline. So, what Tier and what level (international, state, local, etc.).

 

TB is both parents' levels and then divide by 10. This gives you the foals TB after foal training is complete. With one exception, this is what the TB maximum of the foal you're looking for.

 

PS is [generally] both parents' points (performance stats points) added together and then divided by 4. This gives you the minimal that the foal will start out at in the discipline you choose. But since disciplines only use three stats, the horse is comprised of only those three stats for that discipline. So this is why a horse will have different levels in different disciplines (for instance, being local Tier 1 in racing while being international Tier 1 in vaulting).

 

If you take another look at my earlier reply, I mentioned that the PS would be over 2000 but that the TB would be 20.

Is that a little more clear now? 😊



Crystal Stables

Post Count: 130

2/24/2024 4:21 pm

Yeah that makes sense. When will the foal be available?

just a girl who loves horses...



Crystal Stables

Post Count: 130

2/24/2024 4:23 pm

Wait is 2000 the max PS or the PS when born?

just a girl who loves horses...



Oaken Fields

Post Count: 114

2/24/2024 4:25 pm

PS when born. Minimal (or thereabouts). You'll increase the PS after foal training is done and you can regularly train the horse (those weekly trainings).

 

I'll breed the horses in a minute and apply the foal into a trade.



Crystal Stables

Post Count: 130

2/24/2024 4:27 pm

Ok great!!!

just a girl who loves horses...



KayTea

Post Count: 746

4/03/2024 5:38 pm

Could we do him and her for $5,000? they are not at all from the same bloodlines!

Thank you!

P.S. I'm sorry I never got back to you, I will not be doing the two I talked about.

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Oaken Fields

Post Count: 114

4/04/2024 12:24 pm

@KatieLee

Here's what you can expect from these two:

Foal TB (after foal training): 15

Approximate PS: 1700 (Pole Specialty International Tier 1)

Breed Variance Prospective: Looks like at best, you'll have three greens, two yellows and an excellent. A 3 star at best. I'm expecting this foal to be no less than 2 star, however.

Genetic Color Potentials: Base coat will be black, wild bay or bay. Could be a carrier of pearl and flaxen and will be a varnish (Lp).

 

And yes, we can do this pair for 5000. I'd be willing to go as low as 2500, if you need some extra breathing room.

As soon as you review the potential outcome and agree on the final price (just tell me what you want to pay), I'll pair these two together and put up a private trade with the results.😊

 

P.S. Don't worry about the other two. I understand the hesitancy of using the ones that have already been opened to the public. The breeding fees on them is expensive for a reason. 😃 It should help to encourage people to request my younger horses.

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Crystal Stables

Post Count: 130

4/05/2024 11:13 pm

Can I get her

https://horsefable.com/horse/1700964

and him

https://horsefable.com/horse/1671593

thank you! I can pay 5,000 at the most. Tempest Fiend has served me well, thanks again!! He is about to retire, would you like him back to retire with you? (I have like 5 of his foals).

just a girl who loves horses...



Oaken Fields

Post Count: 114

4/06/2024 1:45 pm

@ Crystal Mountain Stables and Rescue

Here's what you can expect from these two:

Foal TB (after foal training): 19

Approximate PS: 2000 (Pole Specialty Elite Tier 1)

Breed Variance Prospective: 1 star, 1 excellent, 2 yellows and 3 reds. Very little chance of variance with this.

Inbred Alert: From what I can see, the foal will be sharing a great grandfather: Depths Of Deceit However, a great grandfather is much closer to linebreeding than direct inbreeding... I don't generally pay too much attention to this. I do try to avoid it, but only in the visible pedigrees. Of course, I've made mistakes from time to time. 🙄

Genetic Color Potentials: The foal will be a chestnut base, with hidden bay. The foal may be flaxen, but will carry one gene for it. The foal may carry pearl. The foal is likely to be dun, but there's a chance of it missing out entirely. The foal may have a blanket, may be a fewspot blanket and may even miss out entirely as well as just being a varnish. The foal may also inherit roan or white, so even with all of the color genes possible, the foal may actually pop out the same color as the dame, a white horse.

 

In light of your restricted finances, I'm willing to make this pairing for as low as 1500, so you have your choice of payment anywhere between 1500 and 5000, whatever price you're most comfortable with. As soon as you give your final okay and choose your final price, I'll breed them together and set up a private trade.

 

P.S. And yes, I would appreciate it, if he returned to me. It's great that they've all been as helpful as they were and that you acquired further show stock to keep you going. I'll even pay 25k for you to send him back, as credit and thank you for being careful with them and their lines.☺️

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Crystal Stables

Post Count: 130

4/06/2024 11:16 pm

I would love the foal! I can currently pay 2,000 bits.

just a girl who loves horses...


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